2004 1500 5.7 oil 5w20?

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2004 1500 5.7 oil 5w20?

Post by eternalfriday » Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:10 am

Is 5w20 what I should use and Im approaching my first oil change. What oil brand should I use-synthetic or not? Castrol? Helllppp! :-?

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Post by HappyKillMore » Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:55 am

Your owner's manual will tell you what the factory thinks you should use. You won't go wrong using exactly what they tell you.

Texas doesn't get that cold, but it does get pretty hot, so I stick with 10W-30 in mine. I use nothing but Mobil1 synthetic, even though this beast wants 7 quarts of it. I have an uncle in Ohio who does a lot of drag racing and swears by Mobil1. I've had no problems with it. If you decide to try it, and if you've never bought synthetic before, be prepared for some sticker shock.

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Post by Ritterkreuz » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:55 am

I use pennzoil, 10W30 here in New York, the same stuff that saw both my parents cars to well over 100,000 miles without any engine troubles.
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Post by SoCalHemi04 » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:39 pm

Hemi's like the lighter oil (less tick) I use 5-30w Mobil 1..you can't go wrong.

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Post by mudbug02 » Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:13 pm

I've been using 5W-30 regular mobil1, but just put in synthetic at 15,000 miles. Everything seems to still be in fine working order.

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2004 1500 5.7 oil 5w20?

Post by johnwmt » Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:54 am

the book calls for 5w30,,,, and as long as you us a good brand name u should be good to go,,,, most of the time it's what u are use to,,,,, althought I would not use synthetic until u got some mile on it aleast 15000,,, in order for the rings to seat good,,,,,. at least that's what i have been told

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Re: 2004 1500 5.7 oil 5w20?

Post by MG42pillbox » Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:32 pm

johnwmt wrote:the book calls for 5w30,,,, and as long as you us a good brand name u should be good to go,,,, most of the time it's what u are use to,,,,, althought I would not use synthetic until u got some mile on it aleast 15000,,, in order for the rings to seat good,,,,,. at least that's what i have been told
actually you will be surprised to see a 5W20 mark on the oil cap,
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Post by MEANGENE75 » Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:35 pm

5w20 is factory fill and recommended. mopar is about the only place to get it though. i went synthetic mobil1 15w50 thinking the higher the oil pressure the better. but was suprised when my engine tick got much louder. a quick, yet expensive change to mobil1 5w30 cut the noise right back down. proving to me the hemi likes thin oil. now i just have to find out why????
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Post by MG42pillbox » Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:27 pm

MEANGENE75 wrote:5w20 is factory fill and recommended. mopar is about the only place to get it though. i went synthetic mobil1 15w50 thinking the higher the oil pressure the better. but was suprised when my engine tick got much louder. a quick, yet expensive change to mobil1 5w30 cut the noise right back down. proving to me the hemi likes thin oil. now i just have to find out why????
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Post by ray » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:57 am

i have 80000 miles on my 03 1500 use 10w30 here in west virgina, ( i change oil every 5000) would like to change to syhtehetic, how long should i go on the syhtetetic befoe changes

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Post by MG42pillbox » Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:56 pm

ray wrote:i have 80000 miles on my 03 1500 use 10w30 here in west virgina, ( i change oil every 5000) would like to change to syhtehetic, how long should i go on the syhtetetic befoe changes

with 80K on your truck 3,000 miles, Contaminants and water still get into the oil.
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Post by SoCalHemi04 » Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:16 pm

Ray..don't change to synthetic now unless you want to have the truck for another 100k... :o

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Post by MG42pillbox » Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:26 pm

SoCalHemi04 wrote:Ray..don't change to synthetic now unless you want to have the truck for another 100k... :o

why do you say that?
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2004 1500 5.7 oil 5w20?

Post by johnwmt » Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:42 am

recheck owner book look at oil cap still my says 5w 30 check with dealer and he said there was a mid-year change to the 5 w 20 so u guys are right ok :evil: but i let my dealer change it away so no big del ,,,, as far as 5 w 20 walmart has it ,,,,, not plugging walmart just cause I work there :o :o :o

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Post by joemagnum » Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:32 pm

Mine says 5w-20, the local Pep boz had only two brands at that weight. Pennz oil(I got this) and GTX. I got the regular Dino oil not the synthetic yet, I change over to AMSOIL at 6,000 miles on all my cars. I might have to go back, someone said 7 qts, I only got 6 and a filter.
Also I noticed only the 5.7l hemi in the Magnum uses 5w-20 the 3.5 and 2.7l use different ones yet.

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Post by Ritterkreuz » Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:55 am

Sounds like at the very least I need to switch from 10w30 to 5w30.
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Post by trappermike » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:26 pm

I don't know you guys, about these incredibly thin oils you are using.I've run Dodge & Chrysler V-8s all my life and I've always used the heaviest oil I can for the climate I'm in.Even when I lived in the arctic,I used 20-50 summer and 10-30 winter.During extremely cold spells(-40 to -50) I reluctantly used 5-30.But 5-20?!?!In your climate? :o I hope you realize that one reason manufacturers are using such light oils nowadays is to justify Mpg ratings they claim for new vehicles,an engine running with water-thin oil in the crankcase suffers much less loss due to less windage in the crankcase etc.Such thin oils will have less film strength,and when hot probably have less viscosity than water.Why do you think they use 60 and 70 weight oil in high load, blown drag motors?If I were you I would use the Castrol Syntec 5-50 an excellent compromise.I've used this stuff and though not cheap, results are excellent. :wink:
If you have to run 5-20 oil in a motor and you don't live in Antarctica ,I'd say there was somrthing wrong with it.

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Post by MG42pillbox » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:33 pm

trappermike wrote:I don't know you guys, about these incredibly thin oils you are using.I've run Dodge & Chrysler V-8s all my life and I've always used the heaviest oil I can for the climate I'm in.Even when I lived in the arctic,I used 20-50 summer and 10-30 winter.During extremely cold spells(-40 to -50) I reluctantly used 5-30.But 5-20?!?!In your climate? :o I hope you realize that one reason manufacturers are using such light oils nowadays is to justify Mpg ratings they claim for new vehicles,an engine running with water-thin oil in the crankcase suffers much less loss due to less windage in the crankcase etc.Such thin oils will have less film strength,and when hot probably have less viscosity than water.Why do you think they use 60 and 70 weight oil in high load, blown drag motors?If I were you I would use the Castrol Syntec 5-50 an excellent compromise.I've used this stuff and though not cheap, results are excellent. :wink:
If you have to run 5-20 oil in a motor and you don't live in Antarctica ,I'd say there was somrthing wrong with it.
It cant be that bad Is Mopar is getting 350K+ Miles out of these engines...
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Post by trappermike » Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:01 pm

Well it's only my opinion,each to his own I guess.But as a mechanic for 35 years I've noticed on engine teardowns that engines run on very light oil show more wear,although the internal parts appear cleaner.I know a friend of mine with a late model Camaro ran 10-40 instead of 20-50 only because of the Chevy's oiling-up thru the pushrods,he said it seemed the top end starved for oil on 20-50 because he could hear valvetrain clattering.
I've used straight 40 or 20-50 in all my motors(since Noah) in warm weather and have never experienced a failure of ANY sort yet,and I still run my engines very hard-like a punk teenager-to this day.

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