392 - how to identify ?

Discussion of the 331-354-392 HEMIs.

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Mach1steve
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392 - how to identify ?

Post by Mach1steve »

I have 2 392 Hemi's for sale.
A potential buyer says they are more valuable if they are car engines rather than truck engines, and that he can tell by the part#'
s or Serial #'s or some such thing.
Is this true ?
Or is he setting me up to tell me they're truck engines and offer me less $$$ for them thinking I wouldn't know the difference?

help please!
Where are the numbers on these engines and how do i translate them ?

mach1steve
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392 id

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blocks have a flat in front of valley pan on pass. side. NE57,58N,3NE57,58N3,CE57, 58C are car 392 codes
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Post by Moparlee »

I guess I'm pretty green here, but I didn't think that they had 392 truck motors. Did they?

Lee
392 Hemi
354 cracked and needs a sleeve
241 or 270 the only running one I have
340/E-brock heads/six-pack/4-speed/mini tubed/spool-64 Valiant
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Post by 392heminut »

I don't believe the 392 engines were available in anything but 57 and 58 Chrysler and Imperial passenger cars. Never say never when it comes to Ma Mopar though! :-?
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Post by Bailiesdad »

they are good engine blocks
Mach1steve
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overbore

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how much overbore can you do safely on these blocks ?
.030, .040, .060 over??
Thanks

Mach1steve
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Post by Moparlee »

To be sure you need to sonic test them. I would say at least .060, but I here of people going .080 to .125 over. I'm not for sure I haven't done any testing or have any expireance (?) with boring on them.

Lee
392 Hemi
354 cracked and needs a sleeve
241 or 270 the only running one I have
340/E-brock heads/six-pack/4-speed/mini tubed/spool-64 Valiant
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Post by dodgedifferent2 »

all the numbers that i know of are posted on there
http://www.geocities.com/dodgedifferent2/hemiid.html
Mach1steve
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whats on the block doesn't match with any of that

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the numbers I have pulled off these blocks are as follows;

1) VT549-1419C

2) C68-1419C

3) C75-2272C

I can't seem to find these numbers on any of the charts.
Any ideas ?

Thanks
Mach1steve
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Re: whats on the block doesn't match with any of that

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Mach1steve wrote:the numbers I have pulled off these blocks are as follows;

1) VT549-1419C

2) C68-1419C

3) C75-2272C

I can't seem to find these numbers on any of the charts.
Any ideas ?

Thanks
Mach1steve

These are Canadian engines, as by the "C" at the end :

1) VT549-1419C - 1957 Dodge/Fargo truck : 354-cid

2) C68-1419C - 1955 Chrysler New Yorker : 331-cid

3) C75-2272C : 1957 Chrysler Windsor : 354-cid
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Post by 41hemi »

According to my records, the C68 and C75 is a designation of the car itself, not the engine. An example would be if the engine were in fact from a 55 New Yorker, the engine serial number would be NE55. They are most likely all truck engines however I cannot verify this. Hope this helps :lol:
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Post by Chrycoman »

41hemi wrote:According to my records, the C68 and C75 is a designation of the car itself, not the engine. An example would be if the engine were in fact from a 55 New Yorker, the engine serial number would be NE55. They are most likely all truck engines however I cannot verify this. Hope this helps :lol:
These are CANADIAN engines. Chrysler Canada did not follow American numbering systems all the time. Although American Chrysler and Imperial serial numbers and engine numbers were different from the rest of the company in 1955 to 1957, in Canada the Chrysler car did not use the American system.

1955 serial numbers :
Chrysler Windsor :
Jefferson Ave : W55-1001 to W55-92194
LosAngeles : W55L-1001 to W55L-4777
Windsor : 99718501 to 99722425

1955 engine numbers :
Chrysler Windsor :
Detroit : WE55-1001 to WE55-96452
Windsor : C67-1001-C and up

Should also point out that the American 1957 Chrysler Windsor was model C75-1, but in Canada it was C75-2. Same in 1958 when the Canadian Windsor was model LC2 on a 126" wheelbase and shared its 354 poly with the Canadian Dodge Custom Royal and DeSoto Firedome. The Saratoga was not sold in Canada in 1957 and 1958.

What Detroit does is not always what is done in the rest of the world.
Bill
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Well In That Case...

Post by Mach1steve »

I have decided not to buy these engines.
Had they been 392's as the owner told me they were, I would have.
But as it turns out (thanks to your information) they are 354's & a 331 and they are all in little peices all mixed together and dis-assembled, I don't have the space to sort them all out and then sit on them until I find buyers.
Mach1steve
1970 Mach1 - 351C 4V 4spd Toploader, original interior.... shows & go's
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