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G.M. and Chrysler Explore Merger
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/business/11auto.html
DETROIT -- General Motors is in preliminary talks about a possible merger with Chrysler, a deal that could drastically remake the landscape of the auto industry by reducing the Big Three of Detroit automakers to the Big Two.

The talks between G.M. and Cerberus Capital Management, the private equity firm that owns Chrysler, began more than a month ago, and the negotiations are not certain to produce a deal. Two people close to the process said the chances of a merger were “50-50” as of Friday and would most likely still take weeks to work out.

A merger would be a historic event, with two of the most iconic names in American industry coming together to survive in an increasingly difficult environment. Both have roots dating back decades in Detroit and, with Ford, long dominated the auto industry — until Japanese and other foreign car makers began making inroads into the American market.

The auto industry is being pummeled from all sides — by high gas prices that have soured consumers on profitable S.U.V.’s, by a softening economy that has scared shoppers away from showrooms, and by tight credit that is making it difficult for willing buyers to obtain loans. Both G.M. and Chrysler have been struggling with product lineups that are out of sync with consumer demand for smaller, more fuel-efficient cars.

General Motors’ stock has fallen from more than $43 a share last year to less than $5, and it is burning through its cash hoard at a rapid rate. Chrysler, as a private company, no longer needs to report its finances.

The meetings between General Motors and Cerberus began more than a month ago, said people familiar with the discussions, and the companies have held several talks involving their most senior executives. Given that both G.M. and Chrysler are struggling, the two sides may determine a merger may not be in their best interests.

The exploratory talks have included debates over various calculations of the savings that would result from a merger, these people said, but neither side has yet to dig into each others’ private financial books and records.

At the same time, Cerberus is continuing to hold talks with other automakers including Nissan and Renault, said people familiar with the discussions. It is unclear at what stage those discussions have reached.

Speculation about a possible bankruptcy filing by G.M. has mounted in recent weeks because of the automaker’s dwindling cash reserves. The automaker had $21 billion in cash on hand at the end of the second quarter, but it was burning through more than $1 billion a month.

The credit rating firm Standard & Poor’s put G.M. on negative credit watch on Thursday.

But G.M. has said it is confident that it can increase its liquidity, and emphasized in a statement released Thursday that it was not considering a bankruptcy filing.

G.M. once commanded about 50 percent of the American vehicle market, but its share so far this year has fallen to 22 percent, according to the research firm Autodata. Chrysler had a market share of about 15 percent before its acquisition in 1998 by Daimler, but its share this year has dwindled to 11 percent.

How government and labor might react to a potential merger of G.M. and Chrysler is unclear. Antitrust questions could be raised, but political issues could be overshadowed by the precarious financial prospects of both automakers.

If G.M., the nation’s largest automaker, combined operations with Chrysler, the smallest of Detroit’s Big Three, they would create an auto giant that would surpass Japan’s Toyota Motor Company, which recently has been battling G.M. for bragging rights as the world’s largest automaker.

A G.M. spokesman declined to comment on any specific talks with Chrysler. “Without referencing this specific rumor, as we’ve often said G.M. officials routinely discuss issues of mutual interest with other automakers,” said the spokesman, Tony Cervone.

There was no immediate comment from Cerberus.

People briefed on the deal said the talks started as an exploration of possible joint venture opportunities between G.M. and Chrysler.

Cerberus acquired an 80.1 percent stake in Chrysler in August 2007 for $7.4 billion from the German automaker Daimler AG.

Under the terms of the deal being discussed, Cerberus would end up owning an unspecified equity stake in G.M.-Chrysler, people briefed on the talks said.

The ramifications of the merger would be enormous in the global auto industry. G.M. and Chrysler together would control more than 35 percent of the United States vehicle market, and be by far the dominant producer of pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles and minivans.

It would also marry such iconic American brands as G.M.’s Chevrolet and Cadillac with Chrysler’s Jeep and Dodge divisions.

However, the potential merger carries enormous risks. Both G.M. and Chrysler are struggling mightily in what is the worst market for vehicle sales in the United States in 15 years.

People close to the discussions said that if the prospective deal did not happen, Cerberus would probably look to Nissan and Renault.

But the marriage of G.M. and Chrysler has far more potential than hitching Chrysler to a foreign automaker. While G.M. and Chrysler may be hamstrung by labor contracts from cutting jobs, the two companies could combine dealers, product lines and advanced vehicle technology.

Bill Vlasic reported from Detroit and Andrew Ross Sorkin from New York. Michael J. de la Merced contributed reporting.
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Here's another angle from a different source...

GM, Chrysler in merger talks: source
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DETROIT/NEW YORK (Reuters) - General Motors has had talks with smaller rival Chrysler LLC about a merger that would combine the No. 1 and No. 3 American automakers at a time when both are struggling to cut costs and shore up cash, according to a source briefed on the matter.

Separately, Ford Motor Co, plans to sell its shares from its controlling stake in Japan's Mazda Motor Co, a second source said.

Finally, Barron's reported that GM was preparing to approach the U.S. Federal Reserve about borrowing money from the central bank's discount window because of the logjam in credit markets that has shut it out of other kinds of borrowing.

The moves come as all three Detroit-based automakers are struggling with a plunge in U.S. sales to 15-year lows and facing tough questions from investors and creditors about whether they have the cash to ride out a deepening downturn.

Representatives of Cerberus Capital Management, the private equity firm that owns an 80.1-percent stake in Chrysler, were not immediately available for comment.

Chrysler and GM declined comment. Ford representatives could also not be immediately reached.

Cerberus is also in exploratory talks with other parties, including Renault-Nissan, to sell Chrysler, the source said.

But any deal would hinge on the completion of the sale of Daimler AG's remaining 19.9-percent stake in Chrysler to Cerberus, the source said. Cerberus last month said it had approached Daimler to buy that remaining stake.

Chrysler's private owners and GM have had "very early" and "very exploratory" talks about a merger, the source said.

The talks between GM and Cerberus, first reported by the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, began more than a month ago and are not certain to produce a deal.

The Journal said that Cerberus had proposed a swap of assets with GM that would give the private equity firm full ownership of finance company GMAC.

In exchange, GM would get the loss-making auto operations of Chrysler, the newspaper said.

Cerberus currently owns 51 percent of GMAC, GM's former captive finance company which has been hobbled by its exposure to the U.S. mortgage market. GM owns the remainder of GMAC.

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The reported talks between the two sides would revive discussions between Chrysler and GM about a potential merger in early 2007 when Germany's Daimler AG began the process of selling off Chrysler that culminated in a deal later that year to sell the automaker to Cerberus.

GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner also said last year that he saw some potential for Cerberus to combine GMAC with Chrysler Financial, the finance company affiliated with the No. 3 automaker.

Analysts have questioned Chrysler's ability to survive as a stand-alone automaker, given its reliance on sales to North America for some 90 percent of its revenue.

But a combination with GM would match two companies with overlapping weaknesses, analysts said when merger talks first emerged.

For one thing, both GM and Chrysler have been hurt by their reliance on sales of trucks and SUVs. For another, both have been struggling to cut union-represented production jobs in reaction to weaker sales.

Chrysler has also had discussions about a tie-up with India's Tata Motors and Italy's Fiat in recent months.

GM shares fell to near a 60-year low this week on fears the global financial crisis could derail its turnaround plans.

GM and Ford both ruled out on Friday seeking bankruptcy protection.

NHK, Japan's public broadcaster, first reported that Ford, which has 33.4 percent of Mazda, plans to sell about most of its stake and has already approached Japanese companies on the sale.

GM shares fell as low as $4 early on Friday, the lowest price for the stock since 1949, but recovered and ended up 13 cents, or 2.7 percent higher, at $4.89 on the New York Stock Exchange.

Credit ratings agency Standard & Poor's said on Thursday that both GM and Ford had adequate liquidity for 2008, but deteriorating industry fundamentals would make liquidity a serious challenge in 2009.

Also on Thursday, industry forecaster J.D. Power and Associates said the global auto markets could be in danger of an "outright collapse" in 2009 as a slowdown that began in North America spills over to other markets.

U.S. auto sales have fallen for three consecutive years to hit 15-year lows in recent months.

Many analysts now expect further declines in 2009 and some slowing in other regions around the world, adding pressure on GM and other U.S. automakers that have been restructuring.

GM, which posted a second-quarter net loss of $15.5 billion, announced plans in July to improve its liquidity by about $15 billion by the end of 2009, about two-thirds through cost cuts and the rest through asset sales and new borrowing.

Ford, which posted a $2.7 billion net loss in the second quarter, went to capital markets to raise more than $23 billion in late 2006. Ford Chief Executive Alan Mulally said earlier on Friday that the company was watching its cash flow carefully.

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GM will do to Chrysler what Chrysler did to AMC, keep the Jeep, junk the rest. Bye bye Hemis!
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If this happens, I hope that it doesn't end up like the ill-conceived
Studebaker-Packard merger back in the 50's. I'm not sure why
Chrysler would want to tie itself to GM's rapidly sinking ship,
just like the once mighty Packard did with Studebaker - but
then, it's all about money for the shareholders, not about cars.
If Chrysler shareholders could make a quick buck - or even just
cut their losses, by selling out to GM, most would probably do
that regardless of the consequences for Chrysler or GM or the
employees.
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GM, Chrysler deal talks accelerate - report
http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/16/news/co ... /index.htm
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Merger talks between ailing automakers General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC. are reportedly picking up amid increased interest from lenders eager to close a deal.

A report in the Wall Street Journal said banking giant JP Morgan Chase & Co. (JPM, Fortune 500) and Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity fund, are the "major players driving the deal."

JP Morgan is advising Chrysler in the talks while Cerberus would like a stake in a combined GM-Chrysler, the Journal said, citing people familiar with the situation.

But a deal is far from certain. The report said certain members of GM's (GM, Fortune 500) board gave the deal "a cool reception." And it is unclear whether the parties will agree to swapping Chrysler for GM's 49% stake in GMAC LLC, according to the Journal.

Despite the uncertainty, some top-level executives remain "bullish" on the prospects of a merger, the report said.
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GMAC For most of the last 3-4 decades of the 20th Century the car companies made most of thier profit off of financing, not manufacuring the cars. It would seem GM is going the wrong way by getting rid of GMAC & increasing manufacturing instead'
The newspaper this AM said Chr will start making mini vans for VW soon.
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Treasury working on aid for GM, Chrysler merger
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. government is considering direct financial assistance to facilitate a possible merger between General Motors Corp (GM.N) and Chrysler LLC, a private sector source familiar with Treasury discussions told Reuters on Monday.

The Treasury Department is weighing aid of at least $5 billion, which could include capital injections and government purchases of bad auto loans, according to the source, a financial policy executive who spoke anonymously because the discussions are private.

Emergency financing, at least initially, most likely would be focused on GM and Chrysler and not Ford Motor Co (F.N), which is struggling but still better off financially than its U.S. rivals, the source said.

A Treasury decision could come this week, the source said.

Separately, the Wall Street Journal reported the Energy Department is working to release $5 billion in loans to GM to help it finance the merger. The money, according to the report citing a person familiar with the matter, would come from $25 billion in financing approved by Congress last month to help domestic manufacturers make more fuel efficient cars.

An Energy Department spokeswoman said it would be "premature to estimate" a timetable for approving loans. Detroit and its allies in Congress have been pressuring the Bush administration to expedite the money, which regulators have said may not be available for six to 18 months.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said officials the Treasury, Energy, and Commerce departments have been in contact with automakers about help -- emphasizing the loan program for fuel efficient cars and the potential for Treasury to buy up bad car loans to spur new lending and jump-start

sales.

Domestic manufacturers are burning through cash and their performance outlook has worsened. On Monday, Moody's Investors Service downgraded GM's credit rating on continuing liquidity concerns.

GM shares fell 8.4 percent on the New York Stock Exchange.

White House has long been cool to any straight bailout of the auto industry, although talk among insiders of immediate and substantial help has intensified in recent days with merger negotiations accelerating.

Industry supporters inside and outside of government have mounted a furious lobbying campaign to tie the health of automakers to the needs of the general U.S. economy, and have elevated the bailout discussion to the presidential campaign, which concludes November 4.

Carly Fiorina, an economic adviser to Republican presidential candidate John McCain, said on Monday the government can assist automakers but not save the industry, meaning that taxpayers should not be on the hook for a long-term investment. On Sunday, former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, an Obama adviser, did not rule out robust help for automakers under certain conditions.

Federal aid is considered a requirement for completing the GM/Chrysler deal since larger GM has failed to find an outside investor to help fund its acquisition with sales plummeting and prospects uncertain, other sources have said.

GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner was in Washington in recent days to lobby administration officials. Former Treasury Secretary John Snow is the chairman of Chrysler owner, Cerberus Capital Management (CBS.UL).

Key congressional lawmakers have also pressured Treasury to use all of its tools to free up liquidity.

GM had no comment on the possibility of a Treasury aid plan. Chrysler said in a statement that industry worked hard to ensure the government's $700 billion rescue plan for the financial services sector would be broad enough to help automakers.

People briefed on the merger discussions previously have said GM would need at least $5 billion to start restructuring Chrysler's operations. The total amount needed could reach $10 billion, the sources have said.

Terms of any direct Treasury assistance for GM were not immediately apparent, according to the source knowledgeable about the government's thinking. However, Treasury has taken equity stakes as part of its $250 billion capital injection program for several U.S. banks.

Treasury representatives were not immediately available for comment.

GM, which burned through over $1 billion a month in the second quarter, is in danger of running its cash holdings below the minimum of $11 billion it says it needs to run its far-flung business by late 2009, analysts have said.

The automaker's plan to sell assets have been slow-moving and the debt markets have been effectively closed to it borrowing more, putting in jeopardy its plan to raise $5 billion from asset sales and new borrowing through 2009.

"Given the deteriorating circumstances in global demand, they could reach minimum cash levels at some point in 2009, barring a recovery," said S&P equity analyst Efraim Levy.

Chrysler ended the second quarter with $11.7 billion, according to Cerberus.
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AP source: Issues resolved in GM-Chrysler talks
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DETROIT (AP) - Several issues standing in the way of General Motors Corp. acquiring Chrysler LLC have been resolved, but others remain including the big one: how to finance the deal, according to two people who have been briefed on the talks.

Both people said GM's management, including CEO Rick Wagoner, would remain in place should a deal take place, because GM would be running the company. Neither wanted to be identified because the talks are confidential.

One of the people said the deal isn't close yet.

"There are issues besides financing," the person said.

Chrysler's owner, Cerberus Capital Management LP, is still talking with GM about financing a transaction. GM is lobbying the federal government for $10 billion to $15 billion in aid to help keep the company going and possibly to make the Chrysler deal work.

That could include direct aid and loans from the government, a government equity stake in GM, and Cerberus having an equity stake in GM.

GM, which is burning through more than $1 billion per month, is interested in acquiring Chrysler to access its $11 billion cash stockpile. Chrysler, however, has an unspecified amount of debt, and many of its dealers, factories, brands and models duplicate GM's and likely would be shed if GM acquires Chrysler.

GM likely wants government dollars to make the numbers work to acquire Chrysler, perhaps using some of the money to shut down redundant Chrysler operations.
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Check out the pages of allpar.com and see the news section there - upper left on the home page, or the "Takeover News" icon on the right. The merger could be off ! Wishes can come true ! Yee-Haa !!

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GM reports $2.5B 3Q loss, says running out of cash
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081107/earns_gm.html?.v=3
GM reports $2.5B 3Q loss, says it's running out of money, suspends Chrysler takeover talks
GM is in no shape to buy Chrysler, especially w/o the Fed's help.
I think all of the Big 3 are still working on $50B worth of loans to
try to keep them afloat. We shall see what happens next.
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