Automotive Heads on Marine Block

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Powerflite
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Automotive Heads on Marine Block

Postby Powerflite » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:52 pm

I would like to use automotive heads on a marine or industrial block. Specifically, I would like to use '55 imperial hemi heads on a '58 marine 354 hemi block. I have heard that the water passages are a little different. Is there a modification that can be done to make it work? Thanks.

Bailiesdad
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Postby Bailiesdad » Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:00 pm

The water passages are the same, the water outlets on the ends of the heads are different. You can use as is and use some sort of crossover for the water or plumb and cool each side seperately.

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Automotive Heads on Marine Block

Postby Powerflite » Tue May 29, 2007 10:21 pm

If that is true, then why does Hot Heads sell two different sets of aluminum heads for 51-54 331, pn WJ540 and 55-56 331/354 pn WJ541 ?? I am pretty sure that the aluminum 51-54 heads he sells does not utilize water outlets through the intake manifold. So what is the difference between them?

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Postby George » Wed May 30, 2007 7:35 am

there is a slight difference between the sealing surface of the 51-4 block & the 354 heads, plus some other things. In Tex Smith's Mopar Hot Rod book there is a picture of a 354 & 51-4 head gaskets overlaid. You can see the differences. It says if you use the 354 gasket you will get oil leaks, besides the other things.

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Re: Automotive Heads on Marine Block

Postby Paul » Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:43 am

It's been a couple years since I built my 354 Marine block w/"555" heads. I believe (if memory serves me right) it required 4 step up dowl pins (available at Hot heads) The water crossover can be made with a couple aluminum block off plates with AN fittings. Fenagling a early cast timing cover to fit is an option.

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Re: Automotive Heads on Marine Block

Postby pavestone » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:44 am

I notice that none of the users here are boaters. Marine motors are converted and I have found that on the streets, here in Northern Calif.

I am a boater. As in, my friends and I have big old boats. Typically twin engine cruisers. A buddy of mine has m 45 sp's which are, I think, 1951 331 's

I have model 45 's which are, I believe, 392 industrials.

Is anyone knowledgeable about these motors, or applications. I am particularly interested in manuals for my model 45 's and marine exhaust manifolds for hemis, not racing runabouts, but for cruisers. I know a lot of the rodders toss these things after they aquire motors or motor from an old boat that has been cut up or re powered.

Talk to me.

Jack

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Re: Automotive Heads on Marine Block

Postby 392heminut » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:22 pm

Chrysler industrial and marine hemis were only made in 331 & 354 c.i. models. The 392 c.i. hemis were only put in passenger cars in 1957 & 1958, they were never used in industrial or marine applications.
Owner of the Poor Man's Hemi Cuda

George
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Re: Automotive Heads on Marine Block

Postby George » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:46 pm

Manuals for the 45S show up regularly on EBay.

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Re: Automotive Heads on Marine Block

Postby Beltran » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:47 pm

Sent you a private message Jack.

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Re: Automotive Heads on Marine Block

Postby mart » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:12 am

392heminut wrote:Chrysler industrial
and marine hemis were only made in 331
& 354 c.i. models. The 392 c.i. hemis were
only put in passenger cars in 1957 & 1958,
they were never used in industrial or marine
applications.

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Ditto on that. No *factory* 392 truck,
industrial or marine engines ever. The
392 was a '57 and '58 Chrysler and
Imperial 'passenger car engine' only.
The factory 'Chrysler Marine' hemis
were all either 270 cu. in. engines,
(based on the the 270 Dodge block)
or 331 and 354 cu. in. engines (based
on the low-deck Chrysler block).

mart
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